Spirit of the Game- Time wasting

[didds]

Exactly like it or not the ref is the one "in control" of the game. He has to resolve the issue some how.

I agree 100%.

So what is it then if (s)he isnt going to just watch time run down while nobody does anything in the manner in the OP (which for clarity is my preferred "action" ) given the caveats about time off - whether soft or hard - isn't a solution because of tournament pressures (and I d agree it would be best if a tournament organiser stepped in - though of course the referee is the sole judge etc and both sides are timewasting

 

[Marc Wakeham]

I agree 100%.

So what is it then if (s)he isnt going to just watch time run down while nobody does anything in the manner in the OP (which for clarity is my preferred "action" ) given the caveats about time off - whether soft or hard - isn't a solution because of tournament pressures (and I d agree it would be best if a tournament organiser stepped in - though of course the referee is the sole judge etc and both sides are timewasting

Well I think I've made my position clear. Both sides are timewasting but the "first offence" is the ball carrier. I'd tell him to put the ball down. If he does not respond, I'll ping him for timewasting. If the organisers don't like it they can address the issue and not invite me next time!

 

[didds]

Fair enough Marc - indeed you are clear. I disagree but I respect the clarity and reasoning of your approach.

 

[jdeagro]

Well I think I've madw my position clear. Both sides are timewasting but the "first offence" is the ball carrier. I'd tell him to put the ball down. If he does not respond, I'll ping him for timewasting. If the organisers don't like it they can address the issue and not invite me next time!

How 'bouts before the actual ping, the ref gives a hard stare locking eyes with the ball carrier and reaches for the whistle (without actual intention to blow) and pops it into their mouth. Perhaps that's a good step 2 after the verbal command. Of course if still no response within a few seconds, whistle will have to be blown at that point.

 

[Dickie E]

For me, it would depend on whether the player was wearing leggings

 

[Marc Wakeham]

How 'bouts before the actual ping, the ref gives a hard stare locking eyes with the ball carrier and reaches for the whistle (without actual intention to blow) and pops it into their mouth. Perhaps that's a good step 2 after the verbal command. Of course if still no response within a few seconds, whistle will have to be blown at that point.

Whistle to your mouth then put it away? Yep you just look weak. Now the players know they have you.

 

[dfobrien]

Call over both captains. Tell them we have a crowd here who have paid to watch you play rugby. If you're not going to do that, I'm going to abandon the game and leave the resolution of the result to the tournament organisers. None of us has any idea how that wil play out, so I'd suggest you both get back to playing rugby.

 

[crossref]

Call over both captains. Tell them we have a crowd here who have paid to watch you play rugby. If you're not going to do that, I'm going to abandon the game and leave the resolution of the result to the tournament organisers. None of us has any idea how that wil play out, so I'd suggest you both get back to playing rugby.

So of course you blew the whistle to enable this discussion.. what's the restart? 5m attacking scrum I guess

 

[didds]

So of course you blew the whistle to enable this discussion.. what's the restart? 5m attacking scrum I guess

to whom? given both teams are party to the time wasting

 

[crossref]

to whom? given both teams are party to the time wasting

Well, I think @dfobrien blew the whistle in order to talk to both captains.

So it's a stoppage "for any other reason" and restart would be a scrum to the team in possession when the whistle blew.

As as the team were in the opponents in goal, the mark for the scrum would be 5m out.

 

[didds]

Well, I think @dfobrien blew the whistle in order to talk to both captains.

So it's a stoppage "for any other reason" and restart would be a scrum to the team in possession when the whistle blew.

As as the team were in the opponents in goal, the mark for the scrum would be 5m out.

and therefore rewarding the timewasting defending team.