Not sure that I see a logical flow from my view on this odd kicking/touch issue to cheating at rucks and mauls.
No kicks to touch on that side?
- Thread starter Ciaran Trainor
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Well if you’re 25m from the tryline, you would want to kick 20m surely?
didds
Resident Club Coach
didds
Resident Club Coach
Id explain but I suspect the clear as day connection would still escape some.
Aw didds, that’s nonsense it’s not ‘clear as day!. Mine was a reasonable question, if you’re able to explain please do, after all it’s not like you to be reticent about posting something.
As a reminder, I posted that having this local rule/bylaw was not a cheats charter. Utilising the rule is not cheating in my opinion.
You responded with an assumption question, asking me if cheating at rucks and mauls without being seen is not cheating. So to help you, this matter has no relevance to my view on this kicking/touch issue. For the hard of understanding, the answer to that question is ‘no’. Hopefully this is clear as day?
Yes.
didds
Resident Club Coach
right.
attacking close to (ie < 10m) oppo line
seeking the edge to score ie cheating
if not caught - likely try
if caught - most oppo can do is still be inside their 22m with a lineout, under pressure and not near half way.
thats not 25m from the oppo tryline, its < 10m. The defenders would want a 25-30m clearance. they can't have it. QED cheating doesnt overly punish attackers if caught with a high reward to risk scenario.
QED cheats charter.
attacking close to (ie < 10m) oppo line
seeking the edge to score ie cheating
if not caught - likely try
if caught - most oppo can do is still be inside their 22m with a lineout, under pressure and not near half way.
thats not 25m from the oppo tryline, its < 10m. The defenders would want a 25-30m clearance. they can't have it. QED cheating doesnt overly punish attackers if caught with a high reward to risk scenario.
QED cheats charter.
Lee Lifeson-Peart
Referees in England
A lot of RL teams at lower levels when they have PK to touch don't bother with the kick. The referee will award a tap on the 20m mark about 10/15m further upfield from the PK.
This keeps play moving, addresses the inevitable shortage of balls and saves having to go into the neighbour's yard, carpark etc. to fetch balls.
This keeps play moving, addresses the inevitable shortage of balls and saves having to go into the neighbour's yard, carpark etc. to fetch balls.
Marc Wakeham
Referees in Wales
An expression I hate.if you don’t get caught it’s not cheating - isn’t that the definition of The Dark Arts of the front row?
Blackberry
Referees in England
There was something similar when reffing at Aylesbury Prison. Only joking, not really.
didds
Resident Club Coach
similar again about playing at erlestoke prison back in the day - allegedly if the ball got kicked over the high barbed wire topped fence and "outside" the prison the inmates team would all volunteer to "go and get it"