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Jumping over the "ruck"

Shelflife

Shelflife


Referees in Ireland
Last week in a Super pacific game , Angus Gardner disallowed a try for a player jumping over the ruck.

So attacking ruck just short of the line, blue player picks the ball up and jumps over the pile of player and touches down for a try .

AG says no try pen against blue you cant jump over the ruck.

But once he takes the ball out, the ruck is over.

Serious law error ? or has there being a clarification issued recently?
 
I would distinguish #9 diving over it, that might be dangerous , but could be achieved safely , from #9 passing the ball to #10 at speed who hurdles the ruck, which is always dangerous
 
we've been here before.

J

Thread 'Legal diving over the ruck?'

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/189rvnf

Ok, to be fair this isn't diving over the ruck in a traditional sense, but is there something illegal about this in the law book? Something somewhere about a player leaving their feet maybe? I can't recall exactly.
Z

Post in thread 'Diving to score'

But is this sort of diving dangerous or reckless to others? Opinions needed to get a consensus. I'm on the OK side, as long as players are diving to score, I'd be less happy in open play away from the try line (although you would be highly unlikely to se this except diving over a ruck which is specifically outlawed anyway.
Ciaran Trainor

Thread 'Diving Over The Ruck'

Watched highlights of Cardiff v Glasgow yesterday and asw the Glasgow Scrum half dive over a ruck on the line to score a try.
Try was given straight away but is it Legal?
If this was in midfield and a scrum half was about to get the ball away with ball in the air and in two hands I'm sure a defender would be penalised if he dived over and tackled the scrum half.

Law 16(d) A player must not jump on top of a ruck.
Sanction: Penalty kick

Its very unlikely that a player Diving over a ruck does not touch anybody.
Thoughts any body

possibly others etc
 
crossref said:
Itoje jumping over just now 25m in , no one seems to worry about that .
He's held up
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that whole episode was poor refereeing. He called a transfer of the ball so the tackle happened on the ball carrier - but if that's the case then its a PK to Italy for England obstruction.
Or if the ball carrier is attached to the maul then its in from the side and a YC for collapsing a maul, possibly PT.

So having decided it was a genuine tackle but somehow NOT obstruction by England, then indeed Itoje's jump may have been worth viewing - but wasn't.

They cant ALL be non existent?
 
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