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didds said:
... in which case it wasn't made dead... :-)
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Important point. Focusing on the question Who put it into in-goal, you could be forgiven for awarding a 22m drop-out if attackers put it in in-goal and the defender knocked on or threw a forward pass. Errors resulting in a scrum sanction still get the scrum with an opposition put-in even when occurring in-goal. The scrum is 5m out and in line with the offence (unless closer than 5m from the touchline).
 
Dixie, indeed, and in the exam question if for example the FB in front of his kicker had moved forwards then he may well be penalised.

If so- position of mark, please?
 
I was looking for something to this regard. In die RSA vs England 2023 RWC match the scrumhalf catches the ball and ran back to his goal line and kicked the ball over the dead ball line. Time was up for the first half. Although the time was up the ball was still in play. If he kicked the ball over the sideline no issue en of half, but running back to the goal line and deliberately kicking the ball over the dead ball line should have been a 5-meter scrum for SA.
 
Troux1966 said:
I was looking for something to this regard. In die RSA vs England 2023 RWC match the scrumhalf catches the ball and ran back to his goal line and kicked the ball over the dead ball line. Time was up for the first half. Although the time was up the ball was still in play. If he kicked the ball over the sideline no issue en of half, but running back to the goal line and deliberately kicking the ball over the dead ball line should have been a 5-meter scrum for SA.
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Law reference?
Because if a scrum is awarded after time has expired then I would expect end of game??
 
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Troux1966 said:
I was looking for something this regard. In die RSA vs England 2023 RWC match the scrumhalf catches the ball and ran back to his goal line and kicked the ball over the dead ball line. Time was up for the first half. Although the time was up the ball was still in play. If he kicked the ball over the sideline no issue en of half, but running back to the goal line and deliberately kicking the ball over the dead ball line should have been a 5-meter scrum for SA.
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The half ends when the ball becomes dead after time has expired.
 
Welcome to the forum, Troux1966.

As others have said, if ball is made dead after time has expired the half ends unless its for a penalty or free kick infringement. So kick over dead ball line = half ends but if he'd thrown the ball over dead ball line it would have been a penalty to opposition.

There are a couple of exceptions to this but they are rare & technical
 
I haven t read all the repl;ies.
Spo ignoring the time is up thing ie game is still live
red kcikm into in goal. Blue ctach it and kick it dead TioG / DBL.

thats the red introduced the ball in goal, and it went dead.
So its either GLDO or a 22m, im never quite sure TBH, but Id plump for GLDO same as if blue had touched down.

Im not seeing what the problem is here. Its NEVER a red scrum/lineout.
 
didds said:
I haven t read all the repl;ies.
Spo ignoring the time is up thing ie game is still live
red kcikm into in goal. Blue ctach it and kick it dead TioG / DBL.

thats the red introduced the ball in goal, and it went dead.
So its either GLDO or a 22m, im never quite sure TBH, but Id plump for GLDO same as if blue had touched down.

Im not seeing what the problem is here. Its NEVER a red scrum/lineout.
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didds, which post are you referring to? If its #24, the scenario is that defending player took ball back into his/her in goal before kicking it into the 12th row of the stand.
 
ah - I think I lost track of the thread dickie! sorry.
If the player takes it into their own in goal and kicks it dead in goal then 5m scrum deffo!
 
Troux1966 said:
I was looking for something to this regard. In die RSA vs England 2023 RWC match the scrumhalf catches the ball and ran back to his goal line and kicked the ball over the dead ball line. Time was up for the first half. Although the time was up the ball was still in play. If he kicked the ball over the sideline no issue en of half, but running back to the goal line and deliberately kicking the ball over the dead ball line should have been a 5-meter scrum for SA.
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After kicking the ball over the dead ball line, the ball was not in play.

I often wonder in situations like this, and regarding the touchline, why don't players simply walk over the line while carrying the ball, why do they walk up to the line and then kick it?

Incidentally, I remember a game in my final season that seemed to go on forever despite several scrums (knock-on, forward pass, collapsed maul, whatever) and a couple of lineout from players tackled into touch... when I later queried the ref he told me the ball had to be kicked into touch to make it dead... I think we played a 50 minute half :oops:
 
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