Dropped ball in maul

[chbg]

If he doesn't drop it, I wont blow it.

I can't see in the middle of a maul which direction the ball has left the hands, its impossible, so I am going with knock on every time.

Even when the BC is facing towards his own GL?

 

[Phil E]

Even when the BC is facing towards his own GL?

Probably not.
But if a player is squaring up to make a catch (facing forwards) and drops it, I will blow for a KO and everyone will accept it.
Now it might be that it went straight through his arms without touching them, but everyone is expecting a KO and would think I was mad if I didn't give it.

 

[jdeagro]

Now it might be that it went straight through his arms without touching them, but everyone is expecting a KO and would think I was mad if I didn't give it.

Players play to the whistle, refs play to the players sometimes.

 

[Volun-selected]

Even when the BC is facing towards his own GL?

If they’re facing their GL in the middle of the maul and drop the ball, odds on the player behind them is going to KO.
if they’re at the back of the maul and lose the ball backwards, maul over play on.

 

[jdeagro]

...if they’re at the back of the maul and lose the ball backwards, maul over play on.

And to be fair, I would believe the maul is over once the ball is dropped, regardless of what happened next. It's just a matter of did it end successfully or not, and then what was the next thing that occurred (as per the original question from OP).

 

[didds]

If he doesn't drop it, I wont blow it.

I can't see in the middle of a maul which direction the ball has left the hands, its impossible, so I am going with knock on every time.

playing devils advocate here really..

you didnt see what happened so you guess what did?

 

[didds]

I suspect it's the similar mindset on why a knock-on is commonly called for a dropped ball from hands that went straight down, or when it accidentally bounces off the foot of the ball carrier before it hits the ground, and clearly wasn't intended to be a kick. I don't agree with calling a knock-on in either scenario, because I like to be pedantically correct usually. But I've observed I'm usually in the minority on this.

TBH that's my perception. Drop the ball? If It didnt DEFINITELY go backwards that seems to always be called a KO

CF a scrumhalf fumbling a ball at the base of a ruck when its only 1 cm off the ground. I'll never be convinced that was definitely forward. But there seems to a wholesale convention and acceptance it was.

 

[jdeagro]

TBH that's my perception. Drop the ball? If It didnt DEFINITELY go backwards that seems to always be called a KO

CF a scrumhalf fumbling a ball at the base of a ruck when its only 1 cm off the ground. I'll never be convinced that was definitely forward. But there seems to a wholesale convention and acceptance it was.

Yea, and TBH, you'd think giving the benefit of the doubt would improve the flow of the game a little bit, instead of going to a scrum for every instance of those cases.