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Andrea Piardi

That's nothing close to what I said.

However I have no issue whatsoever with players questioning my calls, especially when I'm wrong, provided it's done appropriately.
You said they players were also at fault. I'd like to know what you suggest they should do about it. The only option is the tell the referee he is wrong. Presumable the offcials did not think they were wrong. I'm not sure how yo ucan apportion any blame to the players here (other than to suggest they dispute the referees calls).
 
as I said - others' mileage may vary.

still smacks of "I don't like it - so Ill berate it with a meaningless name"
Well, we used to call it "affirmative action" but that fell out of favour. What's the current non-perjorative name?
 
A serious error that could have had (may have had) massive implications andit is not fair to bring it up? Why on earth? If a player kicked out on the full with a 5 mn overlp that would be considered "fair game" why not this? The whole point of a scrum such as this is surely that we learn .And that will sometimes be by pointing out a serious error such as this. In a few weeks I and problable a few others here will ber faced with similar situations in varous cup finals etc. If we avoid the same error thanks to referenceing a bit of "Twitter bleating" then it's a job well done.

As long as it is done in a respectfull way!

I didn't say it isn't fair to bring it up, at all - I think it should be discussed, and is being.

A journalist (or AI bot, possibly) trawling the cesspit of Twitter for inflammatory comments isn't respectful.
 
Well, we used to call it "affirmative action" but that fell out of favour. What's the current non-perjorative name?
dunno. its not the phrase in itself I have personal issues with, but its generic usage now - CF woke/millennials etc etc. Its just becoming cheap speak for "I don't like it therefore its wrong" .
:-)

whatever replaces it maybe will end up with the same knuckle dragging window-licking usage of it amongst the window-licking knuckle draggers. none of whom frequent this oasis of calm and sense obviously.
 
I didn't say it isn't fair to bring it up, at all - I think it should be discussed, and is being.

A journalist (or AI bot, possibly) trawling the cesspit of Twitter for inflammatory comments isn't respectful.
That's nothing to do with it sparking a debate here.
 
dunno. its not the phrase in itself I have personal issues with, but its generic usage now - CF woke/millennials etc etc. Its just becoming cheap speak for "I don't like it therefore its wrong" .
:-)

whatever replaces it maybe will end up with the same knuckle dragging window-licking usage of it amongst the window-licking knuckle draggers. none of whom frequent this oasis of calm and sense obviously.
Indeed it is easy words that rarely mean anything.
 
dunno. its not the phrase in itself I have personal issues with, but its generic usage now - CF woke/millennials etc etc. Its just becoming cheap speak for "I don't like it therefore its wrong" .
:-)

whatever replaces it maybe will end up with the same knuckle dragging window-licking usage of it amongst the window-licking knuckle draggers. none of whom frequent this oasis of calm and sense obviously.
So are you saying that the practice of hiring/promoting based on factors other than merit :
1. doesn't exist, or
2. you don't the name for it, or
3. even giving it a name is the realm of window-licking knuckle draggers?
 
So are you saying that the practice of hiring/promoting based on factors other than merit :
1. doesn't exist, or
2. you don't the name for it, or
3. even giving it a name is the realm of window-licking knuckle draggers?
No.
No
No.

hope that helps
 
So are you saying that the practice of hiring/promoting based on factors other than merit :
1. doesn't exist, or
2. you don't the name for it, or
3. even giving it a name is the realm of window-licking knuckle draggers?
Appointing on potential, as opposed to absolute merit, has been a thing for at least the 31 years or so I've been refereeing.
 
Just as it should be. How else could anyone progress
But is potential assessment skewed by bias?

And are people promoted on potential until they flounder, sometime due to progressing too quickly rather than consolidating knowledge and letting performance catch up?
 
But is potential assessment skewed by bias?

And are people promoted on potential until they flounder, sometime due to progressing too quickly rather than consolidating knowledge and letting performance catch up?
I saw that happen to a few in my early career especially younger refs who were pushed up the ladder, most no longer reffing. trouble is in my neck of the woods there are very few opportunities to learn your trade. Third team games do not exist and actual second team games are few and far between.
 
But is potential assessment skewed by bias?

And are people promoted on potential until they flounder, sometime due to progressing too quickly rather than consolidating knowledge and letting performance catch up?
That happens. And wearing my professional hat for a second, we'd call that shit talent management.
 
Clearly there is a vast chasm between stretching an official who has potential and the unnamable practice (let's call it the Voldermort practice) of deciding that a particular physical or cultural characteristic is under represented so we'd better give them a leg up.
For the record, I understand why the Voldemort practice occurs and I don't have a problem with it if done properly. But let's not pussyfoot around and pretend it doesn't exist
 
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