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22 drop out

Ciaran Trainor

Ciaran Trainor


Referees in England
Just to clear my mind, assume you can only have a 22 drop out these days if there is an attempt at goal or drop goal that is touched down/made dead by the defending team?
 
All other scenarios that would have been a 22DO prior to current law trials, that do not meet any one of the 3 requirements specified in these law trials, are still a 22.
 
Decorily said:
All other scenarios that would have been a 22DO prior to current law trials, that do not meet any one of the 3 requirements specified in these law trials, are still a 22.
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There aren’t any other scenarios other than the 2 in OP are there ?
 
22m drop outs can happen
- when attackers take the ball into in goal and make dead (eg step on DBL)
- attackers kick ball all the way through the in goal (options scrum or 22)
- drop goal attempt, penalty goal attempt touched down or made dead
- atttackers charge down ball into in goal and defenders touch down or ball goes over DBL
- restart kicks go into in goal (options)

may be others I have missed
 
crossref said:
22m drop outs can happen

- restart kicks go into in goal (options)
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22 drop out isn't an option for this one:

[LAWS]If the ball is kicked into the opponents’ in-goal without touching any player and an opponent grounds the ball without delay or it goes dead through in-goal, the non-kicking team has the option of having the kick retaken or a scrum. [/LAWS]
 
Dickie E said:
22 drop out isn't an option for this one:

[LAWS]If the ball is kicked into the opponents’ in-goal without touching any player and an opponent grounds the ball without delay or it goes dead through in-goal, the non-kicking team has the option of having the kick retaken or a scrum. [/LAWS]
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Correct - I meant to refer to the delay bit. If they delay (run wide or something) and THEN touch down I think it would be a 22m. But to be honest it never happens and if it did you could equally well give a GLD really, no one would argue with either decision
 
crossref said:
22m drop outs can happen
- when attackers take the ball into in goal and make dead (eg step on DBL)
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Hadn't noticed or considered that one, wonder if that's deliberate or a mistake, would expect that to be a GLD to be honest
 
Flish said:
Hadn't noticed or considered that one, wonder if that's deliberate or a mistake, would expect that to be a GLD to be honest
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that scenario (and various similar) has been missing from the Law Book for years.

it's not covered by the GLT, so would be carry on as normal. Which means, presumably, a 22m DO as stated in the laws pre 2018

WR don't like to make things easy

In practice then you could give either and I don't think anyone could gainsay you.
- nothing in the Law Book says it's a GLD
- notihng in the Law Book says it's a 22m

so fill your boots !
 
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Thanks Dickie E. No chance I'll remember all that for my first game Saturday but I'm sure if I get it wrong there will be numerous options suggested from the touchline:)
 
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