Where the 2018 Law Book is actually different from 2017

ouk.

ouk.

Rugby Club Member
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#103
Hi all (that's my first post!) and thanks crossref for putting together that document. When reading the new law book to update my personal 'cheat sheet' (that I plan to share at some point) with the new law references, I also stumbled upon some differences between the 2017 and 2018 law books and it helped me understand the hows and whys.


However, there is still one that I haven't been able to fully resolve:

The 2017 law book states that any infringement by kicking team at penalty kick or free kick results in a scrum with the opposing team throwing in (Laws 21.2, 21.3, 21.4). The 2018 law book consistently enumerates the conditions required for a penalty or free kick to be considered valid (Laws 20.5 to 20.11), but the scrum to opposing team in case of an infringement seems to have disappeared.

Has anyone been able to spot where the 2018 law book refers to awarding a scrum to the opposing team in case a an incorrect penalty or free-kick is performed?
 
ChrisR

ChrisR

Player or Coach
#104
#104
Under Law 19 Scrum there is a table that indicates where a scrum occurs for each occasion and there are entries for PK at goal and FK failures. And that's all I could find until I hi-lited and copied the sectiom title and then pasted it here: TAKING A PENALTY OR FREE-KICK Sanction: SCRUM.

Yes!!!!! There is the mystery sanction! Not visible in my PDF copy but shows up when copied & pasted!! :wtf:




Also: Under "TAKING A PENALTY OR FREE-KICK Sanction: SCRUM

8. The kicker may punt, drop-kick or place-kick (other than for touch) the ball.

This implies that a place kick is valid for a FK but not for touch. Yep, why would you but I had never thought that was a possible option under previous law.
 
C

Camquin

Rugby Club Member
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#105
tap and go:

Putting the ball on the ground, tapping it with your foot and then picking it up is technically a place kick.
Bouncing the ball from hands onto feet and back to hands is usually a punt - you could drop kick it but why would you.

Technically you can place kick to space.provided it does not go into touch.
I think you could place kick over the DBL to get a 22m drop out.
 
ChrisR

ChrisR

Player or Coach
#106
#106
Camquin said:
tap and go:

Putting the ball on the ground, tapping it with your foot and then picking it up is technically a place kick.
Bouncing the ball from hands onto feet and back to hands is usually a punt - you could drop kick it but why would you.

Technically you can place kick to space.provided it does not go into touch.
I think you could place kick over the DBL to get a 22m drop out.
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Yes, of course. Doh!

Except then they'd have the scrum back choice.​
 
ouk.

ouk.

Rugby Club Member
#107
#107
ChrisR said:
Under Law 19 Scrum there is a table that indicates where a scrum occurs for each occasion and there are entries for PK at goal and FK failures. And that's all I could find until I hi-lited and copied the sectiom title and then pasted it here: TAKING A PENALTY OR FREE-KICK Sanction: SCRUM.

Yes!!!!! There is the mystery sanction! Not visible in my PDF copy but shows up when copied & pasted!! :wtf:
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Wow, thanks for spotting that, somebody must have selected the wrong font color, or forgotten to add a line break! In the app it's the same, "Sanction: SCRUM" is not visible in the title above item 20.5. I've just sent World Rugby a link to your post.



That said, I found 3 more slight differences:

1. regarding penalty or free-kick taken at the wrong place:
- in the 2017 law book, law 21.2.c clearly states that only a quickly taken PK/FK taken at the wrong place is to be re-taken by the same team (if it's not quickly taken it's a scrum)
- in the 2018 law 20.2 states that when a penalty or free-kick is taken at the wrong place it must be re-taken, without mentioning that it only applies to PK/FK quickly taken.

2. regarding intent to kick at goal at PK:
- the 2017 Law book is clear that failing to respect the intention to kick at goal (21.5.b) results in a scrum
- the 2018 Law book does not seem to explicitly state the same (8.20, no sanction specified).
I fail to see what other sanction than a scrum could be applied here (unless it's PK for behaving against the spirit of good sportsmanship maybe :D).

3. in 2018, it is now made clear that opponents are not allowed to shout during a kick at goal (8.26). Shouting was only explicitly prohibited for conversions

(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong of course!)
 
O

OB..

, Advises in England
#108
#108
I have just collected my copy of the new law book. It is bigger! A5 instead of A6 (148 * 210 mm instead of 105 * 148 mm) Although it is 138 pp instead of 206, that is still an increase in print area, and it won't fit in my pocket.

Put me down as not impressed.
 
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