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CrouchTPEngage

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I could see a ref going for a yellow for that. Depends on history/context in the game. Did it spark any reaction ? Incite anything?

I wonder if you could allow the try then restart with a penalty on half-way ? ( Although that seems odd )
To be honest, first time and juniors ? Then I would probably not YC but I Would give a very strong talking to the entire team that the next player to do anything contrary to good sportsmanship will be a YC.
 
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damo

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Speaking from a union perspective, I think you handled it correctly. Disallowing the try is correct, but it's also punishment enough imo.
 
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leaguerefaus

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damo said:
Speaking from a union perspective, I think you handled it correctly. Disallowing the try is correct, but it's also punishment enough imo.
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This was my view too Damo. Someone tried to tell me after the game to YC also, but I'm pretty firm in the belief that the denial of what was a certain try is sufficient.
 
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leaguerefaus

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CrouchTPEngage said:
I could see a ref going for a yellow for that. Depends on history/context in the game. Did it spark any reaction ? Incite anything?

I wonder if you could allow the try then restart with a penalty on half-way ? ( Although that seems odd )
To be honest, first time and juniors ? Then I would probably not YC but I Would give a very strong talking to the entire team that the next player to do anything contrary to good sportsmanship will be a YC.
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You couldn't award the try and then issue a sanction, as the conduct has happened prior to the try being awarded. If you're sanctioning the player, it's a penalty minimum.

Different story if he scores it and then starts being a toss.
 
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crossref

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I think the decision is good
Also it's a great example of (in union) a genuine 10.4(m) incident
 
Rich_NL

Rich_NL

Rugby Club Member
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I guess it depends on the grade and the atmosphere and many things, but I think a penalty at the place of infringement and a warning would be enough in one of my games, with the disallowed try. If he scored and then flipped the bird out of 'exuberance', then it stands and restart with a penalty.
 
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Phil E

, Referees/Trains Referees in England
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Everyone I have asked in a "you're the ref" kind of way said the the same thing.
"disallow the try, PK and YC".
But I agree with your thought that losing the try was punishment enough.
 
ianh5979

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Had one of these a few years ago (in Union), only disallowed the try and penalty, with a warning about taunting the opposition( no effect on the result as the side I penalised were winning by 40 odd points at the time)
 
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VM75

Player or Coach
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leaguerefaus said:
I didn't go for a YC but would anyone else have?
Conversely, would anyone have gave the try?
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No & No.

I hope the lesson is remembered, an additional benefit is that social media is also re-inforcing the 'unsportsmanlike' message you've sent.

I applaud you :clap:, I've actually done similar [ball carrier running across almost the full width of the in-goal area waving two fingers at opponents who trailed him]
 
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VM75

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ianh5979 said:
Had one of these a few years ago (in Union), only disallowed the try and penalty, with a warning about taunting the opposition( no effect on the result as the side I penalised were winning by 40 odd points at the time)
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Match score is irrelevant, IMO.
 
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