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CrouchTPEngage

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#3
I could see a ref going for a yellow for that. Depends on history/context in the game. Did it spark any reaction ? Incite anything?

I wonder if you could allow the try then restart with a penalty on half-way ? ( Although that seems odd )
To be honest, first time and juniors ? Then I would probably not YC but I Would give a very strong talking to the entire team that the next player to do anything contrary to good sportsmanship will be a YC.
 

damo

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#4
Speaking from a union perspective, I think you handled it correctly. Disallowing the try is correct, but it's also punishment enough imo.
 

leaguerefaus

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#5
Speaking from a union perspective, I think you handled it correctly. Disallowing the try is correct, but it's also punishment enough imo.
This was my view too Damo. Someone tried to tell me after the game to YC also, but I'm pretty firm in the belief that the denial of what was a certain try is sufficient.
 

leaguerefaus

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#6
I could see a ref going for a yellow for that. Depends on history/context in the game. Did it spark any reaction ? Incite anything?

I wonder if you could allow the try then restart with a penalty on half-way ? ( Although that seems odd )
To be honest, first time and juniors ? Then I would probably not YC but I Would give a very strong talking to the entire team that the next player to do anything contrary to good sportsmanship will be a YC.
You couldn't award the try and then issue a sanction, as the conduct has happened prior to the try being awarded. If you're sanctioning the player, it's a penalty minimum.

Different story if he scores it and then starts being a toss.
 

crossref

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#7
I think the decision is good
Also it's a great example of (in union) a genuine 10.4(m) incident
 

Rich_NL

Rugby Club Member
#8
I guess it depends on the grade and the atmosphere and many things, but I think a penalty at the place of infringement and a warning would be enough in one of my games, with the disallowed try. If he scored and then flipped the bird out of 'exuberance', then it stands and restart with a penalty.
 

Phil E

, Referees/Trains Referees in England
#9
Everyone I have asked in a "you're the ref" kind of way said the the same thing.
"disallow the try, PK and YC".
But I agree with your thought that losing the try was punishment enough.
 

ianh5979

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#10
Had one of these a few years ago (in Union), only disallowed the try and penalty, with a warning about taunting the opposition( no effect on the result as the side I penalised were winning by 40 odd points at the time)
 

VM75

Player or Coach
#11
I didn't go for a YC but would anyone else have?
Conversely, would anyone have gave the try?
No & No.

I hope the lesson is remembered, an additional benefit is that social media is also re-inforcing the 'unsportsmanlike' message you've sent.

I applaud you :clap:, I've actually done similar [ball carrier running across almost the full width of the in-goal area waving two fingers at opponents who trailed him]
 

VM75

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#12
Had one of these a few years ago (in Union), only disallowed the try and penalty, with a warning about taunting the opposition( no effect on the result as the side I penalised were winning by 40 odd points at the time)
Match score is irrelevant, IMO.